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               Chris: Dr. Christopher H. Hendon


















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               CTI: “At a coffee shop, freezing beans is especially   CTI:  Any  advice  for  distinguishing  relevant  and
               impractical. Baristas cope with the morning rush by   qualitative data and instruments?
               having a hopper full of beans ready to grind at the   Chris:  Sure. You need to first determine what you are
               flip  of  a  switch.  Making  coffee  from  individually   trying to measure and why.  For example, I might want to
               frozen packets of beans would take too long. In this   measure how much coffee by mass I have extracted.  But
               sense, the current study may be tantalizing as much   why?  The answer I will leave for you to discuss, but I can
               as anything else — after all, lots of folks need coffee   tell you that the ‘why’ to this question does not provide
               to wake up, but it’s only going to be the early risers   insight towards our end goal: tasty coffee.
               who get the best cups.”How do you see this com-       The most valuable method for distinguishing if a
               ment? Do you agree?                               device is proving valuable data is if it is reporting in SI
               Chris:Freezing coffee is certainly more challenging than   units. For example if you want to measure a flow rate the
               a typical workflow in a cafe… but the benefits might out-  device would need to report in units of volume per time
               weigh the cost of training the staff to efficiently work with   (e.g. 3 mL/s). A device that reports in some arbitrary unit
               a single dose grinder and a freezer. If you are a typical café   is not flawed, but does require further inquisition. I trust
               with high volume peaks throughout the day, you might   thermometers, pressure gauges and time.
               actually find the freezing allows you to achieve higher
               quality consistently, because you don’t have those ‘hot’   CTI:  Did  you  collaborate  with  Kyle,  expand  your
               periods as the grinder cools.                     findings to specific beans and grind level?
                   I don’t think that the study is intended to change the   Chris:I have known Kyle for many years. He contacted me
               way we make coffee in cafes.  In fact, quite the opposite.    to tell me he wanted to use this cold coffee idea in his
               I think that the study explains and clearly shows that   routine.  I was excited, I like competition. He asked for
               temperature affects the physics of the grinder.  Whether   the same graph that we published, but a little bit less com-
               you then go and start monitoring burr and bean tempera-  plex (we removed the freezer and liquid nitrogen tem-
               tures is up to you, but it should have emphasized the im-  perature traces).  Note that in the Sci. Rep. paper, we
               portance of this knowledge.                       showed that all beans ground the same, independent of
                   I do believe, however, that the ‘early riser gets the   the origin, processing method, roast or roaster… so we
               best cup’  is  a  terrible  business  model.   Because this  is   didn’t need to expand the study beyond our as reported
               simply not true.  Once the grinder cools after the rush, the   data.  I just tell you what happens relative to room tem-
               coffee should be the same as before the rush.  It is just the   perature, and you – the barista – then has to work out how
               period during high volume grinding.               to make it taste good.


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