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        Q&A                  What was it like growing up   printed in our national newspaper, they cut the clipping

                                                        and kept it in a frame and shared it with every individual
                             in India and what can you tell
                             us about the country’s rela-
                                                        barrassing but way more motivating, as they would cele-
        tionship with coffee back when you were a child?  they knew on WhatsApp. This could be borderline em-
                                                        brate the smallest of the achievements.
            I grew up in the west of India, where the existence of
                                                            Also  looking  at  my  parents  I  learnt  two  important
        coffee in people’s daily lives was very limited. The coffee
                                                        things,  which  I  realized  only  later  that  they  were  not  so
        that most of us knew about was nothing but instant coffee.
                                                        common: First, in my house, chores were not gender-based,
        And the way it was supposed to be made was to add one tiny
                                                        and second, being content and happy was very important.
        teaspoon of instant coffee to a whole cup of hot boiling milk.
                                                        These two things helped me make future decisions in life.
        This made it seem more expensive than brewing “chai” for
        which we would usually boil milk and water together with
        tea powder and other spices. So, most people made coffee   We would like for our readers to understand the context
        only when there was a special occasion.         of the times you were growing up in India. Can you tell
            Since my parents are from the south of India, closer to   us a bit more about any events or changes that you
        where  traditionally  coffee  grows,  in  our  house  a  cup  of   experienced?
        “Kaapi”, which is our south Indian version of brewed coffee,   I was born in the late 80’s so I am definitely a 90’s kid.
        was often a thing my parents used to indulge in. Whenever   It was a time when India was just about emerging in a lot of
        visiting Kerala, where my dad grew up, south Indian filter   things, we were getting to explore the things the world al-
        coffee  was  as  common  as  tea  or  “chaaya”,  and  I  used  to   ready had had, like for example McDonalds came to India in
        wonder why this isn’t as common in the north-west of India.   the mid-90s. And it was nothing short of a “gourmet” expe-
            All I remember was the smell of coffee that came from   rience for us as kids  and pretty darn expensive too. Mid 90s
        the jar of instant coffee, which was so amazing, I remember   were also the time Indian coffee chains started opening, a
        my mom used to roll up open sachets of instant coffee in the   place that was beyond reach for most of us.    reasons I wanted to work in the hospitality industry was to   Oh lots, I don’t know where to start! There are few that
        fridge. On occasions we as kids used to mix that with cold   With the IT boom starting in the 2000s and then ex-  travel, to a lot of places, meet people and enjoy different   are bigger than others I feel which need to be mentioned. If
        milk and sometimes ice cream, and that cold coffee taste   periencing one of the worst earthquakes in 2001, and even   cultures. But being an Indian, there were challenges to get-  you take coffee as a whole, the biggest challenge is the way
        stuck in my head for a long time.               worse – having to experience and see probably the worst       ting work visas. I got tired of that in 2015.   we as a coffee industry communicate to our customers. It
                                                        communal  riot  of  my  lifetime,  the  “2002  Gujarat  Riot”,  I
                                                                                                                          I was already good at training people, I loved training,   creates a lot of challenges and confusion and mistrust.
        How has your upbringing and background led you to   learnt as a kid that the world is messed up, and things can   and my forte was to train people in beverages and alcohol.   For example, there might be a generic chain of coffees
        become the person that you are today?           go wrong in any given moment, both by nature and by us.       My personal favorite was to work with whiskey. I remember   that might be serving a sub-par quality of coffee but be-
                                                            As a kid all I wanted to do back then was to grow up
            Like most people I know, my parents came from a very                                                      while in the USA and UAE, I used to design whiskey pairings   cause  it’s  famous  it  will  boast  about  using  100%  pure
        humble  upbringing,  and  they  did  everything  they  could   and get away from all those bad times, it was too much to   with food, do whiskey tastings and towards the end of my   Arabica coffee. Then, there will be a few good shops that
        possibly do to give to my brother and I every luxury possible.   go through. I didn’t know politics could do so much harm   career in hotels, I was training people to be bartenders. I   will be serving let’s say an Arabica/ Robusta blend, which
        I remember there were times when I used to feel that my   amongst people, I knew my friends who were forced to   was brought up in Baroda, Gujarat in the West of India, and   might  be  better  quality  than  the  sub-par  coffee  by  the
        parents  were  having  a  financial  crunch,  but  they  never   leave their houses in the middle of the night just because   Gujarat is one of the states in India, where alcohol is illegal.  chain, but the customers automatically consider this shop’s
        showed it to us. My dad always used to say, “do what you   they belonged to a minority community. As a kid I was   So, when I got fed up with the visa issues and decid-  coffee as lower quality because they have been bombard-
        like but do it well” and my mom always supported me in   not able to properly comprehend those things, police si-  ed to come back to India in 2015, I knew I couldn’t work   ed with marketing communication that only if its 100%
        everything I ever showed interest in.           rens, blood stains on the  street , mention of  killings in   in the alcohol sector in Gujarat.  I remember looking for   Arabica it’s good coffee.
            I remember right after tenth grade in school, we had   newspapers, houses being burned down, people walking   a job and I found one in the coffee sector. That’s how I   What’s more, many roasters and coffee shops con-
        to pick a course direction for the upcoming college years. I   with swords all became a thing of norm. As a kid who was   got into coffee and my first job in coffee was to work with   tinuously diss or look down upon instant coffee, or people
        was mostly an above average student, and everyone at school   twelve, this was challenging.                   a chain of cafes, headquartered in Gujarat. I was respon-  who consume instant coffee. But now the specialty coffee
        expected me to take science and do something most people   Later, the 2008-09 economic crisis started, just as I was   sible  for  training  the  staff,  setting  up  and  opening  new   industry is coming up with instant coffee solutions, and
        would want their son/daughter to do. But I never had this   out of school. It was  tough to push through and get into the   cafes, and handling the operations. It got me to deal with   we  are  asking  the  customers  to  like  the  same  thing  we
        discussion with my parents. Since I was around eight or nine   hospitality industry and work in the kitchen. We had to do   people, beverage menu making, operations and most im-  frowned upon some time ago, just because now it comes
        years old, I liked being in the kitchen, making a mess, trying   it for less money, less dignity, as in India hospitality workers   portantly traveling. I loved it.   with a few fancy words and is super expensive.
        to cook something.                              are not always looked upon with respect, and less personal        Slowly I got to know there’s something called special-  Even  the  cheaper  instant  coffee  companies  now
            So, when the moment came and I had to choose, I   time, but I still did what I wanted to do.              ty coffee and figured there was a huge gap in terms of infor-  promote  themselves  saying  the  product  is  made  from
        realized my parents were not only giving me freedom to                                                        mation, learning and communication of this coffee, so I dived   100% premium arabica coffee. So for the everyday con-
        follow my will but also supporting me in whatever I want-  What inspired you to pursue coffee as a career?    into that void later on.                       sumer, who “just” wants a cup of coffee, it has become
        ed to pursue. One of the reasons I could pursue learning   This is funny, I never thought of getting into coffee. It hap-                                    too confusing.  It’s a challenge for me personally as well,
        about  culinary  and  hotel  management,  which  basically   pened by chance.  I worked in hotels for almost 9 years, in   What  have  been  some  of  the  biggest  challenges  for   cause my main motto concerning coffee is – TO MAKE
        shaped my future. I remember the first time my name got   India, Switzerland, USA, UAE and Azerbaijan. One of the   you in this industry so far?             COFFEE SIMPLE.



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